Anti-Social Personality Disorder/Sociopathy; What It Means and Why We Need To Start Paying Attention

Recently I’ve written quite a bit about Anti-Social Personality Disorder, and Sociopathy. Let me reassure you, it is not because I’m morbid or secretly Anti-Social myself. Essentially I have two reasons for my “fixation”; 1) I have a 3 year old daughter and what I see going on in this country deeply disturbs me and 2) You hear a lot about Anti-Social Personality Disorder and/or Sociopathy, but no one ever really explains what those words mean.

I promise after this I’ll move on, at least for a while, to something new. (Maybe Borderline Personality Disorder:) But for now let’s begin with a brief explanation of Anti-Social Personality Disorder (ASPD).

The DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statisical Manual of Mental Disorders) explains ASPD as follows; “a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15.” It then goes on to list 7 characteristics, which if you are unfamiliar with the disorder may not explain it very well.

Here’s the general profile of an Anti-Social:

1. Incapable of feeling empathy and/or remorse for others
2. Engages in “parasitic” relationships, “uses” people and then discards them
3. Extreme difficulty dealing with stress and/or anxiety, easily becomes aggressive
4. Superficial charm and/or affect. Seems like they’re “faking it”
5. Manipulative. There is a motive behind everything they do
6. Limited range of emotions, basically anger is about it, and even then they typically only show it through physical displays and cannot express it through words
7. Inability to accept consequences and/or responsibility for their actions
8. A sense of entitlement and/or grandiosity

I think that paints the picture fairly well.

Most people will find themselves in one or two of those characteristics, but don’t worry. Everyone “acts” in an Anti-Social way at some point in their lifetime. The difference is someone with ASPD isn’t acting, that’s who they are, and that is a very important distinction.

There are also a couple of common misconceptions about Anti-Socials. One is that all are “criminals” or “murderers”, specifically serial killers, and although most criminals are Anti-Social, not all Anti-Socials are criminals. In fact, many end up in business because business encourages Anti-Social behavior; money at all cost. There are also a number of them who are attracted to jobs in law enforcement and the military, although they are supposed to have safeguards preventing them from getting in. (Anti-Socials would make great soldiers except they don’t follow orders or care if other people get killed).

The second misconception is that only males are Anti-Social. Studies are showing more and more that the number of female anti-socials is very close to that of their male counterparts. Part of the reason for the discrepancy is simple gender bias. No way “Sweet Little Suzy” is a Sociopath.

Okay, we’ve established what ASPD is, why am I “fixated” on it at this point in my life? Easy.

We are seeing Anti-Social behavior everywhere! The number of people being diagnosed with ASPD is rising in the United States and no one knows exactly why. We are also seeing ASPD onset earlier in children and young adults; Conduct Disorder. (ASPD is still considered an adult only diagnosis because it’s essentially a death sentence. There is no  treatment for the disorder).

But the thing that truly disturbs me is that Anti-Social behavior is not only becoming acceptable, in some cases it’s actually celebrated and defended. Take Anne Coulter for example. (Sorry Anne, but you’re so easy).

In my last post, I included a quote Anne made about how she regretted the fact Tim Mcvey didn’t “bomb” the New York Times building. She made this comment two weeks before the first anniversary of 9/11. People from all over the country rushed to her defense blaming “political correctness”, and claiming it was only a “joke”.

Fifteen years ago not only would have Coulter been fired, her career would be over. Today, she suffered a little backlash and has sold millions more of her books in which she continues to say outrageous things. Why? Why is such behavior tolerable or even lauded?

Or what about the Don Imus case? He basically called the girls on the Rutger’s basketball team “niggers”, remember he used the word “jigaboos”, which is just another way of saying it. Again, millions rush to his defense, and say what about “Rap Music”? They’re right, what about Rap Music?

Rap musicians parade around glorifying the “Gangsta” persona. The truth is most of them don’t know a damn thing about being a “Gangsta” and are simply pimping it to make money. A Gangsta is no one to be admired. And the Gangsta lifestyle is nothing you strive for, it is something you fall into because they are few or no options. They do a disservice to those who are fighting to change the aftermath of generational poverty and racism in this country. And they glorify a lifestyle that is often violent and remorseless.

But there are less obvious signs that all is not right on the Western Front. I mentioned before that kids are using the Internet to harass classmates they don’t like. As result of this harassment several kids have committed suicide.

While the anonymity of the Internet is great, it can also be dangerous. People are more likely to act in ways they normally wouldn’t if they’re anonymous. The reason is that in groups or in anonymous situations people do not feel as responsible their actions. (This is why many surveys are anonymous. People are more likely to speak openly if their name or “identity” is unknown). If the behavior cannot be linked directly to them then they are somehow relieved of the responsibility and consequences of said behavior. It also has to do with our desire to “fit in”, and to be “accepted.” If others are acting a certain way many people will join in so as not to “stand out.”

We also see it in our politicians. Bill Clinton shamelessly humiliating his family so he can play semantic games for just a few more days or weeks. We see it in “The Decider’s” arrogance and grandiosity, which his apologists confuse with “Resolution” and/or “Steadfastness”. (Martin Luther King Jr/Malcolm X/Gandhi were “Resolute” and “Steadfast”).

We see it in our “Celebrities” whether it’s Mel Gibson ranting about “Jews” taking over the world or Brittney and Paris driving around drunk with no panties. (Brittney has two children).

Behaviors considered unacceptable not too long ago are becoming more and more part of our everyday lives. We are growing desensitized as a society, and the consequences are dire.

As I stated, there is no treatment for Anti-Social Personality Disorder, you cannot teach someone to have a conscience. Once a person loses their humanity, their ability to empathize or identify with others, it is too late.

We are getting close to the edge. Coulter’s already suggested killing her opponents. What’s next, actually doing it?


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~ by fairlane on May 10, 2007.

32 Responses to “Anti-Social Personality Disorder/Sociopathy; What It Means and Why We Need To Start Paying Attention”

  1. great article, i agree with many of the things you said, i wish you would add more about the disorder though. I think you have a great ability to write, so please continue writing.

  2. I appreciate that Anon. I definitely love to write.

    I need to get back to writing about Sociology and Psychology again. I’ve kind of gotten away from that recently with what’s going on Politically.

    Peace

  3. How do you teach a 45 year old man and brother who caused me a tramatic brain injury to have a conscience or to care about his actions. Your right, you don’t, it’s too late. I would call it PPP disorder “Punk Personality Probem”

  4. I was putting a box in the attic when John S. Crosbie climbed the ladder, turned off the light and shut the door causing me to fall through the drywall and hit my head on the concrete in the garage. He did not call 911 for 28 hours. Luckily a friend of mine stopped by and called. I had a subdural hematoma. He cleaned up the drywall and left me ther on conscious. Then he filed a restraining order on me while I was in the hospital. What was he so afraid of? Maybe it was the fact he tried to kill me?

  5. How do you think that Asperger’s Disorder relates to actually being Anti-Social Personality Disorder? I have a 6 year old who has been labeled with Asperger’s (on the Autism Spectrum), but Asperger’s is where she will have to be taught social skills…she has been getting a little bit aggressive at school if not the first in line, if something goes the way she thinks it shouldn’t, etc…do you think the two relate, and what can I
    do to help her?

    cmc

  6. Candy,

    Anti-Social Personality Disorder and Asperger’s are completely different problems. Asperger’s is a developmental disorder, whereas ASPD is obviously a personality disorder.

    I only worked with one child who had Asperger’s, and my impression was not that he was “Anti-Social,” but that he was oblivious to other people at times. He didn’t recognize his behaviors were hurtful or inappropriate, and when you spoke to him about his behavior there was some kind of response.

    On the otherhand, I worked with many people who had ASPD, and not only were they aware of what they were doing, they often did it intentionally. They simply didn’t care. You could talk to them until you’re blue in the face, and they still would not care.

    Although the behaviors, on the surface, appear the same, the motivation for the behavior is quite different.

    An anti-social views, consciously, other people as things and others possess no intrinsic value unless they are somehow “useful.”

    Individual therapy, behavior modification, special education, social skills training, and possibly medications are the most common forms of treatment for Asperger’s.

    There is no treatment whatsoever for ASPD. They do not respond to behavior modification, therapy or even medications.

    There are numerous organizations that work with children with Autism and Asperger’s.

    Try here- http://www.nimh.nih.gov (National Institute of Mental Health)

    I hope that at least partially answers your question. It is difficult to explain personality disorders unless you have experience working with them in some capacity.

  7. YES! No one understands someone who studies or is highly interested in this Sociopath disorder! I was so confused with this guy my daughter was dating yet she was totally IN LOVE, or in love with his charm. He only saw her a few days a week and lived 5 minutes away, passed our home much, contradictions in his statements always occurred, calm, very calm, tried to isolate her from friends, and the fact that he never saw her much but wanted a phone and internet relationship with her,,left me confused about his caring about her that he so claimed or appeared to have when exhibiting his loving charm and sweetness. HOw can you NOT want to BE with someone you love? His mother siad he was controlling, he said “you won’t like me if you knew who I really am”, he said his parents tried to put him on meds but he wouldnt’ take them, he wondered did he need meds, his siblings always on depression meds. When she finally broke off with him and went out with another, after he had said, maybe you need to see others and see if they treat you as well as I do, HE WAS BOLISTIC, talked down to her worse than an animal, no feeling except anger and wouldnt’ have anything to do with her after that, I see it as him not getting his way, the plan blowing up in his face, the plan of isolating and punishing and smooth CALM talk, making her always think she was crazy becuase nothing ever “added up” in his tales. He wanted her to talk to no one else but him, no guys of course, but no girls EITHER.
    My sister thinks I am bringing drama into my life by studying this guy and his new relationship, but I have to know, is he a sociopath?? YES, I have concluded, he definitely has narcissistic traits and borderline but also teh cold withdrawal a socipath would have and not wanting to be with someone you claim to love is not normal.

    My sister in law was married to an abusive man and I am so worried my daughter will fall prey to that again, she’s already dated before this guy, a true blue narcissist…..and I have a younger daughter I have to watch out for.

    THis world is not like it was when I was growing up!

  8. I think you should both research more about some things you are saying, and prove your cases.

    Mel Gibson did not say Jews were taking over the world.

    Please get your facts straight, or it’ll make people doubt what else you say.

  9. “Fucking Jews. The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world. Are you a Jew?”

    Nuff said.

  10. give me a link that states that he said that

    i highly doubt it’s true

    again

    site your information

  11. Look it up yourself.

    You’ve heard of “Google,” haven’t you?

  12. hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
    okay so this is gona be wierd
    but im a straight up sociapath/anitsocial disordered/crazy person what ever you wanna call it
    i need help
    i dont care about any one
    no matter what i do im doing it to benefit from it only for myself
    i constantly lie to my parents
    they dont even KNOW me at ALL and i STILL LIE
    i wont let anyone near me until i know how they think or until in my messed up words “i read them and once ive figured out how they think i can be frends with them” just becuase i cant let them figure me out first
    i have to be on top of everyones thoughts
    if you are looking for someone to diagnose/study im all for it
    i want nothing more than to completely learn about myself (obviously i have fake charm and im self absorbed, sorry)
    but most of all i wanna know why
    please helpp me
    you can email me at cassie.turrin@gmail.com
    please respond – ANYONE
    IM A SOCIOPATH AND I DONT KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT
    and my parents wont believe me becuase everything else i say is a lie
    and i manipulate them and its sick but i love it
    god……………someone please just figure me out so i dont have to on my own
    im to damn lazy. please. thanks.

  13. p.s. every single thing you named and listed off about sociopaths i compltely fit
    please respond

  14. myspace.com/mrshazeyblue

    -myspace, go to the bottom left hand side theres tons of writing
    this is my life
    please help me figure it out

  15. Cassie- I don’t work as a counselor anymore, and haven’t for years.

    If you read more of my blog, you’d know I’m crazy as well.

    I’m not the one you need helping you.

    However, I will say that I’ve never met anyone with Anti-Social Personality Disorder who admitted or even acknowledged they have the disorder.

    That’s part of the disorder. A Sociopath would never ask another person, “What’s wrong with me?” They don’t care, which is why they’re sociopaths.

    Sorry I can’t offer more.

  16. ok….thanks for..trying? i guess lol
    i never asked whts wrong with me, i just happened to read about sociopaths n i matched completely
    i never thought the way i am is wrong….until my mom started rubbing it in my face that i dont care about anyone lol
    o well
    its uncurable anyways.
    so i guess im just stuck with no feelings
    great

  17. Sometimes people don’t realize they are sociopaths until it’s too late to help them.

  18. From all that I have read, discussed with mental helath professionals, and dealt with in my family regarding a family member who has been ’strange’ all of my life, I disagree with alot of what you are saying.

    From what the information I have been given, and observed, many MNAY sociopaths exhibit a lack of appropriate emotional responses, being glib, smooth, and remaining very calm while their ‘victims’, are in turmoil and distress, which the sociopath frequently has contributed to.

    Sociopaths lie easily, are not easily ruffled, are unmocved by others’ pain,and enjoy seeing others go thru emotional distree trying to figure them out, and unravel their lies.

    Sociopaths are usually convincing, too, so that often their victims seem to be the ones who are unbalanced, and not the sociopath. just the kind of thing that provides hours of fun for the sociopath.

    They have to ‘win’, as if life is some kind of a contest and they always must come out on top.

    What you are describing in your blog sounds more like narcisistic tendencies and gross emotional meaturity, but not the deadly smooth and cunning tendencies of sociopaths.

  19. Actually, there are many overlapping characteristics between anti-socials, and narcissists. In fact, anti-socials are, in a sense, narcissistic.

    All of the traits you described could easily be attributed to someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder: Detached, glib, cunning, controlled/disengaged, pathologically dishonesty, pleasure from the pain of others, etc.

    What I’m attempting to convey is, not that Anne Coulter, Bush, Gibson, et al. are necessarily Anti-social, but the “I’m not accountable/responsible, I can do whatever I want, and how dare you challenge/question me” attitudes definitely are.

    The end result is essentially the same, other people are unimportant. All that matters is the self.

    The diagnosing of personality disorders, in my opinion, often involves a great deal of subjectivity.

    For example, women are far more likely to be considered narcissistic, as opposed to anti-social. Why? because many people don’t want to believe women can be sociopathic. And men are rarely diagnosed Borderline because it’s considered “feminine.”

  20. I have now become an expert on this disorder since after being widowed I married a man with an exwife and two,(now adult)childern with it! I have never seen such hatred, disregard for any living thing and such a sense of entitlement and apathy. It all stems from the drug addicted or ‘lazy’ parents inabilty to say no to there quasi-god children. They leave them to do what they want, never make them suffer consequences for any wrong doing and try to ‘buy’ from them what they deem is love in their warped minds. I truly believe it gets stronger with each generation and unless a miracle from God changes them, nothing will. ‘Normal’ people are at first taken in by their false charm only to be totally taken. This almost three year ‘relationship’ terrorized me emotionally since the children were given a pass and you were the one ‘deemed’ with problems for not ‘understanding’! Thank God I might have been a little tough on my own 4 childern but you won’t find them being hateful, apathetic, or getting away with any kind of lawlessness or disrespect. I can’t even have sympathy here because they do the wrong thing all the time unless there is something in it for them and knwo they are doing it. No innocence here! Although I have heard of people with no consciences, I had never met one before. I feel I did my own childern a disjustice by not knowing or warning them about such people. But now, as adults, thye have seen them in person and I am worried for my grandchildern as this has become an epidemic! The only way I know to almost immediately spot one of these people is to see how much they talk about themselves and how much they want to know about you. Believe me, I don’t care if you are on death’s door, they will somehow relate it to themselves and look to change the focus to them. BE AFRAID AND RUN! APAHTY HAS NO LIMITS OR SENSE OF ANY ELSE COUNTING EXCEPT THEMSELVES! THEY DO NOT KNOW THE MEANING OF LOVE>>>DELUSIONAL IS TOO LIGHT A WORD TO DESCRIBE THEM!

  21. A p.s. from Lin…they are also pathelogical liars under the guise of placating you! Believe nothing….until evidence is seen! They take, take, take, and 99% of the time never give back unless to benefit somwhow’ If you have any conscience at all it will eventually destroy your belief in the humanity of people unless you get out! You will become a victim emotionally, physically and physcologically! And there will be no remorse from them. So, RUN and carefully watch for any of the above signs for I have seen them all up close and personal!

  22. I Have One Question. Can A Sociopath Love? Hahahah… I Know What You Are Thinking, No Really I Do. People Say Sociopaths Have No Sense Of Love. What If I Told You That There Is A New Bread Of Sociopaths Out There? Everything Evolves, Just Think About The Constant Change In Disease And How We Constantly Have To Change How We Treat Them Just To Keep Up. You Must Be Wondering What Research Have I Done To Prove This “Theory” I Have Come Across. I Know Because I Am One…Oh Yeah And I Am Female.

  23. excellent article! sarah palin is a sociopath. i have never seen a clearer example, ever. what is so ironic about the situation is that real hockey moms are deluded into thinking she is just like them. that is the illusion she is trying to create. little do they know that in an everyday situation (if the two of them were working in the same office or had day to day dealings) sarah palin would psychologically knife them like they have never experienced before if they got in her way. the whole sarah palin schtick is well designed to give off an air of ‘oh shucks, i’m harmless’…….from her ultra-plain clothing all the way down to her exaggerated folksy speech patterns. she lacks empathy, is malicious, power hungry, etc. she is a sociopath. clearest example i have ever seen in the media, ever!

  24. im doing i this for my health class can someone tell me some more about Anti social disorder?

  25. How is it possible that no treatment is available. its been around long enough to figure out how to ease it up a bit. Is rhis genetic or learned? thanks

  26. Is it genetic?

  27. Yes, sociopathy tends to run in families, even when the children were adopted and not raised by their sociopath parents, they may still have a conduct disorder or something related if not APD.

  28. I guess I would fall into this catagory of a sociopath but can admit it, I don’t hold emotional ties very well even with family and my kids. I do see this more and more in everyday life even in the way we drive (especially), we are losing our remorse, empathy, humanity and in plain english just don’t give a s–t about anyone but like to pretend we do! So maybe the the mayan calendar is such a stretch, maybe it is the beginning of the end….

  29. This article, although well-written (in a rather eloquent manner, might I add), is lacking of any real substance behind the true nature of the disorder itself. I have BPD (along with some other things, and I am on the borderline of ASPD, being a female and all … So the shrinks say, anyway …), and I didn’t really see you expand on the list of “symptoms” listed here. There is much more information about this disorder, and really, you should have read a lot more than a DSM IV manual and random celebrity quotes.

    Furthermore, the fact that you state there is *no* treatment for this disorder showcases your ignorance and lack of knowledge about the disorder. There *is* treatment. I mean, how old *is* that DSM IV manual of yours ? Sure, back in the day, even a decade ago, there wasn’t much hope, or any real *treatment* for this disorder. However, as a previous commenter mentioned, illnesses evolve and there are always new methods of treatment that are discovered.

    Mysterious and enigmatic is this disorder and the ones just like it, yes. So mysterious to the point where treatment doesn’t exist ? No. That’s a bit of a stretch, don’t you think ?

    Take cognitive behaviour therapy, for instance. I belong to an IOP group for mental health, and a lot of us are borderline, anti-social, some both, some are schizophrenic and bi-polar. But you know why we are all there ?? Because, we’re there for TREATMENT, and are tired of people telling us that there is *no* hope for us. It *is* possible for a sociopath/borderline to notice that there is something seriously wrong with them, hence myself and others just like me taking the initiative to seek treatment.

    I don’t know of any medications to treat the disorder, and if that is what you meant all along, but … you should have said that was what you meant. You were too vague in that part. Furthermore, you never explained, fully, *why* you felt as though there is no treatment, other than the fact that you have a three-year-old child and what is going on with this country. It’s not just this country, my friend, it’s a global thing.

    Suppose someone who doesn’t know about ASPD, or any other disorders similar to it that you’ve been educating others with in your blog and that’s their first impressions of it ? There goes their hopes and illusions of the possiblity of getting better … God forbid treatment exists to help us out !

    Reason I say this, is because your article isn’t one that was only seen by just a few others’ Google indicates that a lot more than a few people have come across this article. In fact, it’s on the first page when you search for this disorder. At least, for me it was.

    Also, I just read some of your comments. You used to be a counselor ? No wonder you’re not one anymore. You have little to no knowledge about this disorder. Which is why I doubt your dubious claims of being a counselor. If you *were* a counselor, why didn’t you mention that in your article, as opposed to coming across as some ignorant housewife who is merely looking out for their three-year-old child ?

    because, my friend, you are LYING. No real counselor, or ex-counselor, would waste their time writing trash like this, based on a DSM IV manual they say they own. I suppose owning one makes one a counselor now ? No, considering one can be purchased at Barnes & Noble. I own one, and several books about psychiatry and psychology. I guess that now mankes me the mega-counselor !!! I can cure everyone by writing a stupid article now, look at me !!!

    You come across as one, yourself. You rudely told someone to look it up on Google themselves, and rudely even asked them if they’ve heard of it. That’s the shit I’m told by counselors that *I* do. I seldom see it, but they seem to see it in me. Maybe they’re the sociopaths and I’m normal ? Hmmmm … Now there’s an avenue that needs some exploring !!

    Back to your comments. They shouldn’t have to look it up for themselves, because you, the writer, should have provided PROOF for your claims. That’s what a good author does, they BACK up what they state. Ever heard of a bibliography to cite your sources ? Which is why I find it ludicrous that there is the possibility that anyone takes this sierious and sees you as some sort of authority figure on the disorder. I say that because you come across as rather confident in yourself and your article. So what are you going to tell me to read the rest of your blog ? I don’t have to read it, because I already know what it contains – just a bunch of baseless *facts* written by someone who has quite a god-complex.

    by the way, when I said earlier that this article was written rather well and full of eloquence, I only meant that in the sense that it made me laugh, like some sort of a joke I just read in my text messages. Because, that’s exactly what you are – a joke.

    For those who are seeking treatment, despite what this yahoo says, Wikipedia has an excellent article on it, and the many treatment options : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

    To the “writer”, quit while you’re behind.

  30. Before I go, here’s a site that lists treatment options for ASPD. These few to limited options are actually many options compared to this article saying that there isn’t treatment.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829/DSECTION=treatments-and-drugs

  31. Dear Alicyn,

    Alas, where to begin?

    How about the Mayo Clinic link.

    The article, in the very first sentence, says, and I quote, “Antisocial personality disorder can be challenging to treat, and there’s no specific treatment for it.”

    Why is there no “specific treatment?” Well, that’s easy. The reason is, there is NO TREATMENT. All the article does is list “possible treatments” for ASPD. (In fact, the article lists just about every type of treatment, aside from electro-shock, and lobotomy, known to the field).

    Let’s look at therapy.

    Talk therapy with anti-socials, as well as with Borderlines, and Narcissists is not only fruitless, it’s potentially detrimental to both the patient, and therapist.

    Why? Anti-socials lie, and they lie A LOT. They’ll even lie when there is no benefit or reason to lie.

    Lying is part of the disorder.

    Anti-socials are also extremely manipulative.

    In a therapeutic setting, it is difficult to trust the veracity of someone with ASPD. Are they working on their issues because they’re sincere, or are they working because they have an angle?

    Anti-socials do not engage in normal human relationships. They get what they want/need through manipulation. That doesn’t change simply because they’re in a therapeutic setting.

    Could therapy work? I suppose, but only if you could convince someone with ASPD that 1) there’s something wrong with them, and 2) they need therapy for, oh, I don’t know, how about at least TEN YEARS?

    Here’s an actual quote from an anti-social with whom I used to work-

    “I don’t lie. I’ve never lied. You are the one who lies.” (We were discussing the fact that he was sexually harassing another one of my clients. During our investigation, we had 17 witnesses come forward. Of course, they were “liars,” as well).

    Or what about this one. One of my clients, a Blood gang member, hit an elderly woman in the face with a full soda can breaking her nose, and occipital bone.

    In our discussions, he’d acknowledge he knew it “was wrong,” but the reason he gave (Every time) was because, “You get in trouble.” He never once expressed a modicum of remorse. Nope, it was wrong because he got caught, and got sent to juvenile detention.

    Talk Therapy?

    Good Luck.

    Now, what about medications?

    ASPD is not a chemical problem. Most psychiatric drugs are designed to deal with chemical problems. ASPD is a PERSONALITY DISORDER not a neurotransmitter disorder.

    What is an anti-anxiety drug going to do for someone with ASPD? Is being less anxious going to stop them from engaging in parasitic relationships? Nope. Will being less anxious make them feel remorse? Nope.

    ASPD isn’t an anxiety disorder, it’s a PERSONALITY DISORDER.

    And what about anti-depressants?

    Shit. One of the possible side effects of anti-depressants is…can you guess…

    HOMICIDAL IDEATION.

    Remember, a history of aggression is one of the criteria for ASPD.

    Does it make sense to give someone with a history of aggression a drug that could potentially make them more aggressive, even homicidal?

    And even if the anti-depressants work, what does treating depression have to do with treating ASPD?

    Is depression one of the criteria for ASPD?

    One more time, ASPD is a Personality Disorder. Seratonin levels have nothing to do with ASPD.

    What about hospitalization, and/or anger management?

    Well, in my opinion, neither is really “treatment.” Hospitals are almost exclusively dependent on medications. Medications are, as I mentioned, essentially useless when it comes to treating ASPD. Sure, they may be less anxious or depressed, but they still use people, view people as objects, lie, cheat, steal, etc, etc, etc.

    Anger management? Honestly, anger management or “Diversion,” as they call it in the court system, is nothing more than an attempt to modify behavior (Often through the use of Negative Reinforcement).

    Modifying behavior may work to some degree, but it’s really not “Treatment.” Treatment implies getting better, a change in the condition (be it cancer or mental illness).

    We’re talking about someone with a personality disorder, not someone who’s pissed because daddy didn’t take them to the Yankees game when they were ten.

    How do you get someone to stop being who they are? How do you change someone’s personality?

    The only time I’ve ever heard of a person’s personality dramatically changing involved some kind of traumatic brain injury.

    Maybe I could hit Alicyn in the head with a baseball bat?

    Nah, just kidding.

    Two more things.

    One- Try reading the comments about Google again. And this time try to actually read them all the through. You’ll see they have nothing to do with ASPD.

    Two- I’d never suggest that you read the rest of my blog. You’re obviously a concrete thinker. The majority of my writing would be beyond your ability to understand. I know, I know, you are definitely grandiose, but believing you can fly doesn’t make it so.

    This post was not meant to be the definitive account of ASPD. It was something I wrote, in about 20 minutes, one night over a year, and a half ago.

    Several of my posts are “Number one” on Google, Alicyn. It comes with being famous/infamous, whatever.

    Adieu.

  32. Wow! When you see these people at work, you almost get lost in a maze of lies, trickery, and manipulation. Great article, and I have to agree with ALL of the signs. I too am getting to experience this first hand.

    I currently am dating a wonderful man whose ex is the sickest person I have ever encountered. It is frustrating to watch, and it angers me more ofter than not. These people are mastermind manipulators, and they have an innate ability to attain whatever it is they are seeking. They lie with surgical precision, and are able to turn on the charm all at the same time.

    I have some confusion on what the difference is between antisocial, sociopath, and psychopath? I have read several place online, and the lines are kind of blurred. They all have basically the same symptoms. So what is the difference?

    I watch this woman con my boyfriend almost daily. This week she claims to have tuberulosis, next week a brain tumor? She is “unable” to work because she claims she has a doctors note. She constantly calls and texts, each time with a new and better crisis than the last. And then if she is questioned, she is able to turn things around and make everyone else look crazy. it doesn’t seem to matter to her that he has left her, she still lives in this delusion that he owes her something. When he doesn’t go off charging like the cavalry, she becomes hostile and abusive. She has tried to get me fired from my job, and has even done damage to my car. When she is questioned about any of it, her skillful lying and manipulation take center stage. It is the most frightening display I think I have ever encountered.

    How can I help my boyfriend? He agrees that she has a problem, but I cannot make him understand the codependency. I can visibly see a change with him when she starts on one of her episodes. He becomes removed, and almost fearful.

    I don’t understand this woman. Is what I am describing a psychopath? A sociopath? Or an antisocial?

    Thanks for any input.

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