The Separation of Church and State (Blogs Against Theocracy)

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Once you view our video please check out http://FirstFreedomFirst.org, as they are an excellent resource on what you can do to keep Religion where it belongs, in the Churches.

And definitely check out the rest of The Blogswarm Against Theocracy.

 

Peace and Napkins

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~ by fairlane on July 1, 2007.

17 Responses to “The Separation of Church and State (Blogs Against Theocracy)”

  1. Video was nicely done and it’s easy to see the kind of religion shoved down peoples throats is devisive, and hypocritical yet, we are free to choose…..Huh?

    Thanks for sharing your views!

  2. Fairlane,

    You’ve got a couple of options with this video embedding. You could either upgrade to a 1GB account with WordPress, at which point you can upload your video directly to WP. Or, you could go the youtube route and then embed it with a “” link.

  3. Nice video, btw. Another thing to remember is that separation of church and state is not only good for the state. It also protects the church. My church, for instance, supports separation.

  4. It has some kind of strange extension no one else recognizes. My computer won’t even let me download it.

    Thanks

  5. What’d you use to make it? Maybe you could use an “export” feature to get it in a different format?

  6. keep religion in church, at home and out of my face and life.

  7. Veeery nice, fairlane!

  8. Is that the video you were talking about? Nice work if so. (The Radiohead tipped me off)

  9. Yeah, but by the time I figured it out it was too late. The “Swarm” had passed.
    But thanks.

  10. I love being able to edit comments.

    I know that’s a tangent, but what in my life isn’t?

  11. Geez, this sounds like a gun control argument.

    The text of the amendment is:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

    Respect in this manner means “concerning” not, “having respect for”.

    In other words, the Founding Fathers did not want the Government to be able to tell people HOW to worship. (The whole reason the puritans left Europe to begin with).

    All the many other arguments seem to be posed by heathens who want to outlaw religion and worship Darwin and random chance. If you want to do that go ahead, but the majority still has the right to worship God, as they see fit.

    As for keepign religion out of government, that’s not possible. Members of any religion are bound to behave in a certain manner, according to the rules of their religion. And since you can’t discriminate on the basis of religious beliefs, they have every right to take office and perform their elected duties as the conscience dictates- whether that conscience is influenced by religion, science or whatever.

    That is why it is important to really examine a candidate, not just what party they’re in, when deciding to cast your ballot. If you don’t agree with their morals, don’t hire them by voting them in.

    caveat suffragtor?

  12. troglodad,

    There are actually laws against using religion to make certain decisions, such as using it as a prerequisite for hiring a government employee. Granted, it’s not the case in all circumstances, elected officials do not have free reign, once elected, to do as they please. However, there is an argument to be made that religion is part of who a person is. They may make decisions based on their religion, not consciously, but simply because their religion has changed their world view. I can accept that, I guess. However, I think there are also definite example where someone can cross the line.

  13. Article VI- “No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

    “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”

    -Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813

    “Let the human mind loose. It must be loose. It will be loose. Superstition and dogmatism cannot confine it.”

    — John Adams, letter to his son, John Quincy Adams, November 13, 1816,

    “God is an essence that we know nothing of. Until this awful blasphemy is got rid of, there never will be any liberal science in the world.”

    — John Adams

    “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.”

    James Madison, principal author of the constitution:

    There are countless quotes from our “Forefathers” espousing the dangers of Religion, specifically Christianity.

    Bush has most certainly violated the Constitution with the “Litmus Tests” for Supreme Court judges, and with his Faith Based Initiative, which is wrought with financial improprieties. Not to mention Pat Robertson was given over a million dollars by this “Initiative.” The same man who donates millions to the GOP, and who said that “God” told him Bush was to be President. He gets Federal Money.

    You seem to use very simplistic arguments with your “heathen” remarks etc. You so-called “Christians” over at “I Haven’t Had An Original Thought In My Life World” have no problem going after “Muslims”, but fail to see yourselves in their eyes. You are most assuredly there.

    Chad and I already went through this at the Paper with a “Point-Counter Point.” He had to read between the lines just to make an argument. Personal Faith is of little consequence. The Founders understood the dangers of Religion, which is why they kept it out of the Constitution.

    Considering you like to do a lot of assuming, I’ll assume that you, more than likely, have never read the entire Constitution, which in my experience is typical of the lazy minded people on your side.

  14. “That is why it is important to really examine a candidate, not just what party they’re in, when deciding to cast your ballot.”

    It is not I who follows “Party Politics”.

  15. “You so-called “Christians” have no problem going after “Muslims”, but fail to see yourselves in their eyes. You are most assuredly there.”

    I know just how the Muslims see Christians- as infidels who are supposed to be killed. Christianity on the otherhand, teaches patience and witnessing to others.

    Example of Christians: the Gideons, who leave free copies of the Bible layign around for folks to read and form their own opinions.

    Example of Muslims: terrorists that want to blow up anyone who eats pork and likes the U.S.

    I agree- the Founders did understand the danger of letting religious despots rule more than their followers. However, the Founders did not intend to make America a land of atheists.

    And yes, the Constitution is one of the things I’ve read in my life. But like the Bible, I don’t have it memorized and do have to go back over it from time to time.

  16. “Example of Muslims: terrorists that want to blow up anyone who eats pork and likes the U.S.”

    How many Muslims do you know personally?

    I’ll say, ZERO.

    Your comments only reinforce what I said.

  17. “How many Muslims do you know personally?

    I’ll say, ZERO.”

    And you?

    Of course I don’t know any muslims! I couldn’t tell them where I live- they’d come blow me up.

    And how could I be friends with anyone who doesn’t like bacon?! There’s just sumpin’ wrong with anyone who doesn’t like the greasy, crispy wonder that is bacon!?

    I did have a friend who was a bhuddist, though. I say did, because he went back to the monastery, then got out (for a second time) got married and I never hear from him anymore. And I know some mormons, some Jehovah’s witni and lots of Catholics. I’m very multi-cultural.

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